I have NEVER been a Flat Earther.

I just found out that I, Nathan Roberts, have NEVER been a Flat Earther. And as you read on, you too may find yourself in a similar, or even worse, situation.

Until 2015, it was inconceivable to me that anyone on “planet” Earth could possibly believe the earth beneath his or her feet to be anything other than a spinning globe. And for the years up to this point in my life, it would have been accurate to label me as a Secular (aka Pagan) Earther. And, I’ll touch on the term “Secular Earther” a little later, though, in short, a Secular Earther is someone whom has faith in any universe model except for the one presented precisely as recorded in the Bible.

I must also confess that, despite being a Bible believer and Christian, I was completely ignorant of the universe model represented from within the Bible. And, as a result, I was not necessarily aware that I was a Secular Earther. Now that I know what I know about the Biblical account of Creation I can confidently say that I was, in fact, a Secular (aka Pagan) Earther.

By June 2016, after much research, I discovered with my own God-given senses and the Bible that the earth is stationary and flat. At this point in my journey of researching Cosmology I was forced to adjust my beliefs and thinking, and, by default I accepted the title of Flat Earther even though I was NOT.

Until October 2018, I was unaware of another title option for quickly identifying my belief about the shape of the earth. While I was at the 2018 Skyfall Conference a man named Shade Stone introduced to me some compelling reasons why the term Flat Earther may NOT be the most accurate and effective representation of a Christian who trusts the Biblical account of the literal Creation.

The way I see it now, there exist primarily 3 categories a man/woman can identify with when it concerns the topic of the shape of the earth, which directly impacts ones understanding of the Cosmology/Universe. You are a Secular (aka Pagan) Earther, a Flat Earther, or a Biblical Earther.

Secular (aka Pagan) Earther

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A Secular (aka Pagan) Earther has faith in the world and chooses to believe whatever the majority of the world believes.

Secular means:

  • denoting attitudes, activities, or other things that have no religious or spiritual basis.
  • not spiritual : of or relating to the physical world and not the spiritual world
  • not religious
  • of, relating to, or controlled by the government rather than by the church

Pagan means:

  • a person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions.
  • one who has little or no religion and who delights in sensual pleasures and material goods : an irreligious or hedonistic person

If the majority of the world believes the earth is shaped like a pretzel, then they conform to the belief unquestionably.

pretzel shaped earth

If the majority of the world believes the earth is shaped like a pear, then they conform to the belief unquestionably.

pear shaped earth

Unfortunately, many “Christians” are in this category right now, as I too once was. Is trusting in God’s Word, Jesus (John 1:14), a salvation or faith issue? Any true Christian would answer, “Yes.”

I’d like to take a moment to reiterate what Jesus said as recorded in John 3:12-13:

“If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.”

To summarize the sentiment of a Secular (aka Pagan) Earther it would be:

“I believe whatever the majority of the world believes.” – Secular (aka Pagan) Earther

Flat Earther

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A Flat Earther ascribes to whatever appeals solely to the boundaries of their own observations using their own senses. If they observe the earth to NOT be moving, then the earth is fixed and NOT moving. If they observe the earth to be flat, using proven and reliable mathematics, then it’s flat. If they observe the surface of water to ALWAYS seek to find level, then the earth is flat. If they observe a helium balloon defying alleged “Gravity,” then “Gravity” does NOT exist.

Flat Earthers will often times espouse that they do NOT rely on “faith” for their beliefs about the shape of the earth, though a Flat Earther does have “faith” in his limited abilities. I believe those who are in this category are in just as dangerous a position as Secular Earthers.

Can our senses be deceived? Absolutely.

It is a proven fact that your limited abilities can be tricked at an astronomical scale; even to believe you are living on a spinning ball. Therefore, we need a true reference point that we can use to keep us from deviating from what is true. We all need something that is so true in this crazy world that despite what is going on we can always rely on it, just like a compass always points North and the Polaris (north) Star can always be found at center north.

If a Flat Earther has already proven to himself that he is NOT a true reference point for truth, since he’s been deceived through the Globe Earth lie, what gives him the confidence that it will NEVER happen again? We are NOT true reference points, so how can we trust in ourselves?

To summarize the sentiment of a Flat Earther it would be:

“I believe only what my senses tell me.” – Flat Earther

Biblical Earther

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A Biblical Earther believes God’s Word regarding the literal account of Creation. Not just that the Creation occurred in a literal 6 days. Not just that the Great Flood during the days of Noah happened. Biblical Earthers believe and trust the ENTIRE account of creation, the Firmament, as well as, the waters above it.

There are many Flat Earthers who, like me, should rather be calling themselves Biblical Earthers. Does the Bible teach a Flat Earth? Yes.

Is Flat Earth a doctrine? Yes.

So, why should Christians refer to themselves as Biblical Earthers, instead of, Flat Earthers?

Do all Flat Earthers believe that Hell is a place of eternal fire and it is located under the earth at the center? Nope.

The reason Flat Earthers don’t believe it is because they haven’t observed it with their own senses. The reason Biblical Earthers believe it is because they trust the Word of God.

According to the Bible, Hell is Eternally HOT:

"And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 13:42)

"And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 13:50)

“Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (Jude 1:7)

“Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” (Matthew 3:12)

“Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.” (Luke 3:17)

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:” (Matthew 25:41)

“And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. - (Mark 9:43-48)

According to the Bible, Hell is a bottomless pit located under the earth:

"So shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Matthew 12:40)

"(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?" (Ephesians 4:9)

"Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:" (Amos 9:2)

Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. (Isaiah 14:9)

"Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit." (Isaiah 14:15)

“I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.” (Ezekiel 31:16)

“They also went down into hell with him unto them that be slain with the sword; and they that were his arm, that dwelt under his shadow in the midst of the heathen.” (Ezekiel 31:17)

“For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; “ (2 Peter 2:4)

Hell is a "bottomless pit." (see Rev. 9:1-2 & 11, Rev. 11:7, Rev. 17:8, Rev. 20:1, Rev 20:3)

According to a Flat Earther, Hell doesn’t exist because it’s NOT proven through his own observation and experience.

According to a Flat Earther, such as Eric Dubay, President of the International Flat Earth Research Society (IFERS), Jesus never existed.

According to the Bible, unless Eric Dubay repents, he will one day learn what Hell is through his very own observations.

Jesus said, according to the Bible:

“But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.” (Matthew 10:33)

Flat Earthers and Biblical Earthers find common ground that the earth is not moving and it is flat. Outside of those two common denominators, there is no guarantee that anything else will be agreeable.

However, for those who claim to be Biblical Earthers, they not only adhere to the earth being stationary and flat, they also believe the following:

  • There is a firmament that separates the waters from above from below and it is strong like a molten looking glass and it shows the handywork of God. (Gen. 1:6, Psalm 19:1, Job 37:18)
  • Jesus (Yeshua) is the only begotten Son of God (Yahuah) born of the Virgin Mary. (Isaiah 7:14, Matthew 1:18-25, Luke 1:27, Luke 1:34, Luke 2:1-7, 1 John 4:9)
  • Jesus lived a sinless life, yet died as a sinner, in order, to atone for all sin. (2 Corinthians 5:21, Hebrews 10:10)
  • Jesus died for all mankind so that no one may perish, if they repent and believe on Jesus Christ. (Mark 1:14-15, John 3:16, 2 Peter 3:9)
  • Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life and no man comes to the Father except through Him. (John 14:6)

Might some Flat Earthers ascribe to some of the items that Biblical Earthers claim, maybe some? Not all.

To summarize the sentiment of a Biblical Earther it would be:

“I believe in God’s Word, and everything I can verify matches with God’s Word.” – Biblical Earther

Summary Comparison of 3 "Earthers"

Biblical Earther

Faith

The common denominator amongst all 3 categories is that they each demonstrate a type of faith.

Secular Earthers place their faith in the world. And, while some Christians believe in a literal 6 day Creation, they are not firm enough in their faith in God’s Word to agree that the earth is fixed, immovable, and set upon pillars. So, they mingle doctrines of devils (1 Timothy 1:4, 1 Timothy 4:1-2, 2 Timothy 4:4) with doctrines of the Bible, and they are none the wiser, only more acceptable to the world which is fading away to damnation (1 John 2:17).

Flat Earthers place their faith in ONLY themselves. Hence, if they haven’t met Jesus and seen his miracle, he never existed. If they haven’t met Satan, he doesn’t exist. If they haven’t experienced heaven or hell, they don’t exist.

Biblical Earthers place their faith in God’s Word, while also proving all things and holding fast to that which is good. (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

And, while, each demonstrates a faith in their belief about the Universe, only one is established by the Word of God (John 1:1-3) and comes with a hope.

“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.” Hebrews 11:1

Where do you place your faith?


Nathan Roberts, Christ follower

P.S. The earth is stationary and flat because God's Word, Jesus (John 1:1-3 & John 1:14), is ALWAYS Faithful and True! (Rev. 19:11)

3 thoughts on “I have NEVER been a Flat Earther.”

  1. Thank you Nathan, yes, I do not call myself a flat Earther either. Because like you do I believe in the biblical Creation.I have no idea how things function, such as the Sun,Moon, Wandering stars & stars move or how eclipses occur. I just trust God, He knows how everything works after all, He created it all.
    I also have no idea about the Earth’s shape or how high & broad it is, as we are not told this in God’s Word either, just that the Earth is pressed down like a seal on a document.I do believe that we will know all the truth one day as God says He will reveal ALL that is kept secret & hidden.
    So, that’s what I believe my bro’. From now on I will call myself a biblical Earther…Thanks for your input…your bro’ in Christ Jesus Colin..

  2. Nathan, I wanted to reach out and let you know that I too once called myself a flat earther. I have been watching your videos for quite some time . I failed to accept the truth of the Bible when I first looked into the ” flat Earth”. I was lost and confused. Now I believe God’s word. I want encourage you to keep spreading the Truth, God’s word the Lord Jesus Christ. Thank you and God bless you

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